The AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review: 96 MB of L3 3D V-Cache Designed For Gamers
by Gavin Bonshor on June 30, 2022 8:00 AM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
- AMD
- DDR4
- AM4
- Ryzen
- V-Cache
- Ryzen 7 5800X3D
- Zen3
- 3D V-Cache
Gaming Performance: 720p and Lower
All of our game testing results, including other resolutions, can be found in our benchmark database: www.anandtech.com/bench. All gaming tests were with an RTX 2080 Ti.
For our gaming tests in this review, we re-benched the Ryzen 7 5800X processor to compare it directly against the newer Ryzen 7 5800X3D on Windows 11. All previous Ryzen 5000 processor were tested on Windows 10, while all of our Intel Alder Lake (12th Gen Core Series) testing was done on Windows 11.
We are using DDR4 memory at the following settings:
- DDR4-3200
Civilization VI
Final Fantasy 14
Final Fantasy 15
World of Tanks
Borderlands 3
Far Cry 5
Gears Tactics
Grand Theft Auto V
Red Dead Redemption 2
Strange Brigade (DirectX 12)
Strange Brigade (Vulcan)
At 720p resolutions and lower, we are significantly (and intentionally) CPU limited. All of which gives the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and its 3D-Vache the chance to shine.
The addition of 3D V-Cache to one of AMD's mid-range chips makes the Ryzen 7 5800X3D a much more potent option in gaming, with much better performance consistently than the Ryzen 7 5800X. This is very much a best-case scenario for AMD, and as we'll see, won't be as applicable to more real-world results (where being GPU limited is more common). But it underscores why AMD is positioning the chip as a gaming chip: because many of these workloads do benefit from the extra cache (when they aren't being held-back elsewhere).
In any case, the 5800X3D compares favorably to its more direct competition, the Intel Core i9-12900K and Ryzen 9 5950X (which are both more expensive options). In AMD partnered titles, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D does extremely well.
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Silver5urfer - Friday, July 1, 2022 - link
That would eat into Zen 4 so they avoided it, it's just like Intel's Rocket Lake, Intel marketed a 2C4T deficit CPU only for gaming but abandoned - IMC, Efficiency (which was already poor), MT workloads. Both did half-measures on the socket refreshes.If AMD did a whole stack, plus I think Zen 3D is too late, I mean the CPU uArch design team R&D and work is better spent on Zen 4 probably since allocating more time to make the X3D work on all Zen 3 lineup and giving them a full refresh = lot of work / money / resources.
Shame, because It would have been a solid product if they had optimized it from core, esp with the IOdie, that thing is the biggest Achilles heel for AMD Ryzen Zen 3. Also given their nature of AGESA and QC It would definitely have more impact. EPYC X has lower clocks so it's pretty much better to bin them and put money there as it will net them more cash, Zen 3 was already heavily saturated in the market.
I think for the future we will have to see how AMD will add X3D to their SKUs I do not think they will do a full stack, but who knows ? maybe they can address the heat and tuning since Zen 4 might be built from ground up on massive improvements esp given it's nature of IPC boost which is marginal but higher clocks and more stability and more mature platform this round.
Khanan - Friday, July 1, 2022 - link
Nah, experimental CPUs aren’t released in a common end user and server product, please go inform yourself on PC hardware, you don’t really know much, it’s silly.Kangal - Friday, July 1, 2022 - link
FacepalmEverything is experimental when it is new. I specifically said they should repeat what they did here, and then later, when it is fleshed out better, apply those innovations into the mainstream products. Instead of "please go/inform yourself" maybe you should "learn to read"?
Case in point: AI/ML/Neural Networks. They have been pointless hardware for several years, and made processors "worse" due to the added silicon cost, consumer price, design complexity, software stack, thermals and energy use. However, today they are a welcome addition and in some cases crucial for functionality (that innovation made Rosetta2 possible, relying on this hardware in Apple M1 chips).
Leeea - Thursday, June 30, 2022 - link
Not having usb problems hereSaw there was a bios patch a while back, have you updated your bios?
Silver5urfer - Thursday, June 30, 2022 - link
I do not have the AMD platform. I waited for an year to see what AMD will do for B2 stepping and the AGEGA 1.2.0.2 which was supposed to come out on April 2021 fixing the problem. I kept on searching online at OCN, r/AMD constantly and found the brand new X570S and the top tier boards exhibit the problem regardless of stepping. The 1.2.0.7 is supposedly stable BUT it has it's share of issues with the DRAM OC. And finally the Processors from AMD cannot sustain a single clock speed multiplier ratio. Plus the voltage coupled with all that I did not want to delve into the platform, when I saw 3 users on a forum I visit mention the USB problems.It's a hit or miss. You are lucky if you do not have it. But I also think after touching the DRAM past 3600MHz the IOD is flaky, it won't be able to cope and cause lot of stability issues. And a friend of mine ran on X470 C7H, 5900X with Windows 7 and got a lot of instability. I want Windows 7 too... which caused me to skip it.
Khanan - Friday, July 1, 2022 - link
You did not have it? So you’re just a salty Intel fanboy that talks trash. Good to know, thanks.Khanan - Friday, July 1, 2022 - link
Because your CPU got eclipsed, hahaha, cry more. I enjoy it.Silver5urfer - Friday, July 1, 2022 - link
This is Anandtech, of all folks here I see the salt only from you, which is self-explanatory who is the one here doing the usual nonsense of fanboy slandering.The product is shoddy, I called out Intel with trash Z690 because of ILM issues but you see I said bad things about your precious CPU you came out of your small cocoon and started nonsense.
Here's your shoddy garbage now cry more.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ughkay/worse...
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/twph8r/if_yo...
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/sqxby/usb_st...
https://www.overclock.net/threads/amd-ryzen-5000-z...
Eclipsed by garbage yep I can say that perfectly alright. I rather stick with a stable system.
Silver5urfer - Friday, July 1, 2022 - link
Fixed link for one of it - https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/sqxby0/usb_s...teldar - Friday, July 1, 2022 - link
You're linking to posts with complaints about beta bios installs? Beta, use at your own risk, firmware?