The AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 Review: Unleashing Zen 5 and RDNA 3.5 Into Notebooks
by Gavin Bonshor on July 28, 2024 9:00 AM ESTASUS Zenbook S 16: Power Consumption & Performance Modes
A big part of any laptop's performance is its TDP – how much energy the chassis can consistently dissipate – meaning that two laptops can have wildly different performance, despite using the same chip, just by virtue of their cooling capabilities. So measuring the peak and sustained power consumed by a laptop is particularly important, both to get an idea of where it falls on the ultrabook-to-DTR spectrum, but also how a design compares to other laptops. Especially with an architecture launch like this one, we need to know if a performance lead comes from architecture and efficiency, or just running a lot of power through a chip.
The AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 has a rather large configurable TDP range overall, with the chip capable of being set to anything between 15 and 54 W. This gives Strix Point a wide berth to fit in everything from ultrabooks to larger gaming notebooks, but it also means that the chip's performance, particularly in heavily multi-threaded and mixed CPU/GPU workloads is going to be defined by its TDP.
Despite its 16-inch frame, In the ASUS Zenbook S 16 is configured rather conservatively. ASUS has taken what's nominally a 28W chip and dialed it down to 17W for it's out-of-the-box experience. Dubbed "Standard Mode" the out-of-the-box experience is a laptop that's highly efficient and highly quiet, but does leave some performance on the table for the sake of acoustics.
ASUS also gives the user quite a bit of latitude to pick performance modes here, with the Zenbook offering 4 different modes altogether. Besides the standard mode, there's the ultra quiet "Whisper mode", the performant "Performance Mode" with a 28W TDP, and the no-holds-barred "Full-speed Mode".
For most of the Zenbook S 16 you'll see today – ours included – you'll find these laptops are running in the 28 Watt Performance Mode. This comes by request of AMD, who is looking to show off what the chip can do at its standard TDP, rather than ASUS's dialed-down TDP. And while we're not beholden to this (or any other) request from AMD, from a pragmatic standpoint it's a lot easier to find 28W laptops than it is 17W laptops. So for our first round of testing, we have dialed up our laptop to its 28W mode.
In our peak power test, the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 ramped up and peaked at 33 W. We typically see a higher peak power value than the TDP before things settle down during an intensive workload, although the Intel Core Ultra 7 155H within the ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED did manage to peak at 64 W for a very brief moment, which is way out of spec.
Looking at the power of the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 when using Maxon's latest Cinebench 2024 (multi-threaded test) benchmark, which is quite an intensive rendering workload, we can see how it compares to the Ryzen 9 7940HS when dialed down to 35W, as well as the Intel Core Ultra 7 155H which is running at 28W within the ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED. Aside from the very large spike up to 45W on the Core Ultra 7 155H, we see a pretty consistent level of power usage from the CPU package (the cores).
Focusing on the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, we can see it quickly ramped up and achieved a very consistent load level, bouncing between 32 and 33 W throughout the Cinebench 2024 MT benchmark loop. As the benchmarking loop carried on, power consumption slowly dropped to a steady-state TDP of 28W, matching the configured TDP of the laptop. The slow and gradual drop in power towards the end was very smooth. The same can be said about the Ryzen 9 7940HS. In contrast, the Intel Core Ultra 7 155H produces some slightly noisier data, bouncing around between 26.5 W and 29 W throughout the test.
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GeoffreyA - Sunday, July 28, 2024 - link
I hope the mobile cores' having 256-bit SIMDs doesn't mean the APUs are going to also?Ryan Smith - Sunday, July 28, 2024 - link
By APUs I assume you mean the desktop G series chips. In which case, historically those have used the same die as the mobile parts. So the short answer is "most likely yes, they'll have 256-bit SIMDs".GeoffreyA - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link
Yes, that's what I thought. A bit of a disappointment, that.Khanan - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link
Why, if you need full fledged AVX512 you can get the proper CPUs for that, people that do usually buy those anyway. The APU variant can still do AVX512 however, just not in one take cycle.GeoffreyA - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link
Good point. The thing is, apart from any power cost, it would be beneficial in a lot of places, considering that AVX-512 is being used more and more: dav1d, SVT-AV1, x265, and other places. Certainly, those who are doing heavy-duty work will buy the desktop CPUs; but if full-width AVX-512 can filter down to the lower parts, it will benefit many. And some folk, not interested in a discrete GPU, will buy an APU anyway.Khanan - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link
I mean AMD still got you covered if you buy the desktop version, “not APU” it still has a small igpu in it, that’s plenty if you’re not gaming. And if you’re gaming the APUs aren’t much anyway. I think all in all the decision of AMD to save space and only give “proper” AVX512 to the usual desktop CPUs is fine, considering those who really need it will buy those or even higher parts anyway. What should be considered still, is the fact that it was saved in the APU/Laptop CPU because of economic reasons. You want full AVX512 there? Fine, chip would be bigger and thus CPUs pricier + bigger sizes reduces the amount of CPUs you can produce from single wafers = less CPUs overall = more pricing possibly = less availability. I think AMD did the right thing, Intel doesn’t even give you AVX512 in general. I mean you want AVX512? You still at least get the “light” version of it, it’s not like you’re not getting it at all, right m.GeoffreyA - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link
No, I agree. It's better than not having it, as on Intel, and I suppose it's just greed talking. What completely slipped my mind is that the ordinary "non-APUs" also come with graphics these days. So, my mistake there, and it changes the whole argument. In light of that, it makes more sense.Khanan - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link
Absolutely no problem, that’s why we are having these talks!id4andrei - Sunday, July 28, 2024 - link
What is the delta between on battery performance and plugged in?How is the battery drain under sleep?
abufrejoval - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link
In one review I've seen, with the 28 Watt profile there was hardly any drop with the battery and I'd expect the "standard" and "whisper" profiles won't change any either. The 33 Watt "performance" mode most likely will default to something more 25 Watts without external power.Twelve hours of sleep brought 4% battery drop in the same review.