AMD's Desktop CPU Roadmap: 2024 Brings Zen 5-based "Granite Ridge"by Gavin Bonshor on June 9, 2022 6:50 PM EST
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As part of AMD's Financial Analyst Day 2022, it has provided us with a look at the company's desktop client CPU roadmap as we advance towards 2024. As we already know, AMD's latest 5 nm chips based on its Ryzen 7000 family are expected to launch in Fall 2022 (later this year), but the big news is that AMD has confirmed their Zen 5 architecture will be coming to client desktops sometime before the end of 2024 as AMD's "Granite Ridge" chips.
At Computex 2022, during AMD's Keynote presented by CEO Dr. Lisa Su, AMD unveiled its Zen 4 core architecture using TSMC's 5 nm process node. Despite not announcing specific SKUs during this event, AMD did unveil some expected performance metrics that we could expect to see with the release of Ryzen 7000 for desktop. This includes 1 MB per core L2 cache, which is double the L2 cache per core with Zen 3, and a 15%+ uplift in single-threaded performance.
AMD 3D V-Cache Coming to Ryzen 7000 and Beyond
One key thing to note with AMD's updated client CPU roadmap, it highlights some more on what to expect with its Zen 4 core, which is built on TSMC's 5 nm node. AMD is expecting 8-10% IPC gains over Zen 3, on top of their previously announced clockspeed gains. As a result, the company is expecting single-threaded performance to improve by at least 15%, and by even more for multi-threaded workloads.
Meanwhile AMD's 3D V-Cache packaging technology will also come to client desktop Zen 4. AMD is holding any further information close to their chest, but their current roadmap makes it clear that we should, at a minimum, expect a successor to the the Ryzen 7 5800X3D.
AMD Zen 5 For Client Desktop: Granite Ridge
The updated AMD client CPU roadmap until 2024 also gives us a time frame of when we can expect its next-generation Zen 5 cores. Built on what AMD is terming an "advanced node" (so either 4 nm or 3 nm), Zen 5 for client desktops will be Granite Ridge.
At two years out, AMD isn't offering any further details than what they've said about the overall Zen 5 architecture thus far. So while we know that Zen 5 will involve a significant reworking of AMD's CPU architecture with a focus on the front end and issue width, AMD isn't sharing anything about the Granite Ridge family or related platform in particular. So sockets, chipsets, etc are all up in the air.
But for now, AMD's full focus is on the Zen 4-based Ryzen 7000 family. Set to launch this fall, 2022 should end on a high note for the company.
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neo_mouse - Thursday, June 9, 2022 - linkSoooo, you saying there is a chance we might see and NON Pro Zen3 Threadripper??
or is it more likely the graphics guy putting this together was too lazy to use the Threadripper Pro logo.
Silver5urfer - Thursday, June 9, 2022 - linkThat's the sad part I doubt there will be a Threadripper. The PCIe 5.0 chipset link on Zen 4 was downgraded to 4.0 as per TechPowerUp, so having this means they need to put a ton of redrivers on the chipset plus increasing overall cost, HEDT I think is dead. Xeon is delayed plus Intel's HEDT plans rumors were saying W class processors which are not X series for Enthusiasts unfortunate really.
neo_mouse - Friday, June 10, 2022 - linkit's a sad day for any enthusiasts that want to add more than one add-in-card and have lanes to drive it. "oh you want PCIe lanes to run that network card" buy a Xeon or a Threadripper Pro, ya I know we USED to offer that, but you know."
Khanan - Friday, June 10, 2022 - linkSuch nonsense, you have more than enough to add multiple cards, please don’t exaggerate. Otherwise feel free to buy Threadripper Pro
mode_13h - Saturday, June 11, 2022 - link> That's the sad part I doubt there will be a Threadripper.
Threadripper Zen4 is right there, in the slide. I think the reason they're not saying anything about TR for Zen5 is just because it's so far out.
> HEDT I think is dead.
Depends on what you mean by HEDT. Currently, the price gap between desktop and workstation platforms is too big for simple power users. So, that puts it out of consideration, for many enthusiasts without really deep pockets.
I guess we've been spoiled, in a way. I remember when workstations had exotic RISC CPUs and started at probably around $5k and would easily go up to $100k. I guess we're reverting back to that, a little bit. Certainly, if you load one up with HPC-grade compute cards, you can get north of $50k.
hansmuff - Monday, June 13, 2022 - link.. but then you're a bit more than an enthusiast, right? HPC-grade compute cards aren't something you would use for anything but money-making professional use.
mode_13h - Tuesday, June 14, 2022 - linkYeah, that's my point. I was saying that we were spoiled by workstations becoming almost vanilla PCs, for a time. That made them very affordable.
Once core counts really started to climb, so did CPU prices. And then the motherboards became even more of a specialty item. Now, the only way you can justify the cost of a proper workstation is if you need it for business purposes.
TomWomack - Monday, July 18, 2022 - linkRemember that the second-hand market exists; if you want a dual 20-core Xeon Gold workstation with 384GB RAM, a 1080Ti and a couple of terabytes of NVMe SSD, bargainhardware.co.uk will get you one delivered within the week for £3300.
Ryan Smith - Friday, June 10, 2022 - linkAMD seems to be very happy with Threadripper being positioned as a premium workstation part. It has been selling exceptionally well (despite being tied so close to a single OEM), and this avoids an earlier problem they were having of OEMs using the cheaper OG Threadripper.
At the end of the day, the extra cores and I/O of Threadripper are valuable enough in the workstation market that AMD seemingly doesn't see a benefit to releasing cheaper products with those same features.
mode_13h - Saturday, June 11, 2022 - link> the graphics guy putting this together was too lazy to use the Threadripper Pro logo.
The "Threadripper" text is small enough that they probably thought it'd be too much of a squeeze to add Pro.