Updated AMD Notebook Roadmap: Zen 4 on 4nm in 2023, Zen 5 By End of 2024by Gavin Bonshor on June 9, 2022 6:35 PM EST
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As we've come to expect during AMD's Financial Analyst Day (FAD), we usually get small announcements about big things coming in the future. This includes updated product roadmaps for different segments such as desktop, server, graphics, and mobile. In AMD's latest notebook roadmap stretching out to 2024, AMD has unveiled that its mobile Zen 4 core (Phoenix Point) will be available sometime in 2023 and Zen 5 for mobile on an unspecified node which is expected to land sometime by the end of 2024.
The updated AMD Notebook roadmap through to 2024 highlights two already available mobile processors, the Zen 3-based Ryzen 5000 series with Vega integrated graphics and the latest Ryzen 6000 based on Zen 3+ and with the newest RDNA 2 mobile graphics capabilities. But there's more that is due to be announced starting in 2023.
From The Rembrandt, Rises a Phoenix: Zen 4 Mobile AKA Phoenix Point
What's new and upcoming on the updated AMD mobile roadmap is the successor to Rembrandt (Ryzen 6000), which AMD has codenamed Phoenix Point. AMD Phoenix Point will be based on AMD's upcoming Zen 4 core architecture and will be built using TSMC's 4 nm process node. According to the roadmap, AMD's Zen 4 Phoenix Point mobile processors will use Artificial Intelligence Engine (AIE) and AMD's upcoming and next-generation RDNA 3 integrated graphics.
Also Announced: Zen 5 Mobile Codenamed Strix Point
Also on the AMD notebook roadmap is the announcement of its Zen 5-based platform on an unspecified manufacturing process, codenamed Strix Point. While details on Strix Point are minimal, AMD does state that Strix Point will use AMD's unreleased RDNA 3+ graphics technology, which will likely be a refreshed and perhaps more performance per watt efficient RDNA 3 variation.
Also listed within the slide of the roadmap with Phoenix Point and Strix Point is an Artificial Intelligence Engine (AIE), which is more commonly found in mobile phones. The AI Engine or AIE will allow AMD to spec its products based on tiling with an adaptive interconnect. Still, it hasn't unveiled much more about how it intends to incorporate AIE into its notebook portfolio. We know that it is part of AMD's XDNA Adaptive Architecture IP, which comes from its acquisition of Xilinx.
We will likely learn more about AMD's Phoenix Point based on Zen 4 in the coming future, as a release date sometime in 2023 is expected. As for Strix Point, which will be using its unannounced Zen 5 microarchitecture, we're likely to hear more about this next year sometime.
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lazybum131 - Tuesday, June 14, 2022 - linkCorrection, doesn't look like those Ideapad 1's are fanless after all, I swore I read somewhere they were.
lemurbutton - Friday, June 10, 2022 - linkAt this point, both AMD and Intel are extremely disappointing when it comes to competition with the M series.
The only hope is that Qualcomm with their Nuvia cores can compete with Apple Silicon. I think AMD and Intel are out and will be phased out completely in the laptop market in the next 10 years. They have no hopes of competing with Apple.
sgeocla - Friday, June 10, 2022 - linkStrix Point is going to be launching on 4nm at CES in January and compete with M2 on 5nm. Then we'll get a proper Apples to AMDs comparison since 5nm and 4nm are just different TSMC N5 variants.
Comparing M1 chips on 5nm with AMD chips on 7nm or Intel chips on 10nm ESF and pretending it's all about some magic Apple architecture when the most important difference between the chips efficiencies is their process node is plain wrong.
ABR - Saturday, June 11, 2022 - linkWhat a ridiculous statement. So you mean Windows is going to be phased out in favor of MacOS? Hardware takes a back seat to OS and cost. Apple A series has been spanking Qualcomm et al. for years, but it makes not the slightest difference to Android's dominant market share.
Exotica - Sunday, June 12, 2022 - linkAndroid may have the most market share yes, but apple earns the most revenue of leading smartphone Manufacturers. https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartp...
And it has an even higher share in terms of profit extracted from the market. I’d argue that winning in revenue and profit are more important than winning in market share.
Flunk - Tuesday, June 14, 2022 - linkApple has no intent to compete with Intel or AMD, wake me up when HP and Dell are shipping their new ultra-portable notebooks with Apple-Designed ARM chips otherwise all the Apple chips are is Mac-OS specific hardware that won't do what I need it to.
ZoZo - Friday, June 10, 2022 - linkI know one OEM who will be all up on that Strix Point action
NextGen_Gamer - Friday, June 10, 2022 - link"It's unclear whether the platform will use DDR5 or DDR4 memory..." The currently available "Rembrandt"/Ryzen 6000 series is already DDR5-only, seems like it would be strange for a platform to go backwards in technology. And as the article stated, so far everything Zen 4-based is only using DDR5 memory.
Flunk - Tuesday, June 14, 2022 - linkThere is a rumor that AMD may release some Ryzen 4 chips on socket AM4. AMD reps have said it's possible but didn't confirm anything. So people are holding out hope there.
Xajel - Sunday, June 12, 2022 - linkThe only thing I'm worrying about is the mobile launch, AMD based laptops tends to launch slowly, the past 2 generations took their time from the official APU launch in CES up to October, which is a very long time, especially since the APUs already came 4-5 months after the Zen core release (desktop), making the whole thing silly, launching a laptop with a Zen core architecture that is one generation behind the latest Zen core used in a desktop.
AMD seems to focus more in gaming laptops, forgetting about content creation and business. Giving priority to the OEMs who will launch gaming laptops or some niche designs. I under stand business laptops doesn't care that much about being on the latest generation as the focus is a reliable and stable platform. But for creators, and hybrid usage (work + gaming), they should focus more in this area.