To me this looks - quite nice - faster GPU and 2 more cores than 8805G in the Dell XPS 15 2in1 - but also looks a lot thicker but there is nothing like 4K screen on the XPS's. Also has only a single Thunderbolt 3 - I would rather it have 2 Thunderbolt 3's To me the need for USB 3.x type A are going away - with a nice hub - who cares.
Of course they had to ruin the clean "stealth" design with that atrocious dragon on a shield logo. Why not just print MSI on it? Gigabyte Aero 15X did it right.
yeah, someone made a 1080p 144hz 15.6" TN, virtually all of the current generation of gaming laptops are including it. The only question is if they offer either a cheaper 1080p IPS or more expensive 1440p/4k IPS option at 60hz too.
I believe a 4K option will increase the cost by about $400 or so and also used more battery. But I believe with such a device it almost a must have. But my reasons for it in XPS 15 2in1 is because of high end graphics and not directly for gaming.
Killer's initial drivers were extremely buggy and had major stability problems. Between that and the fact that there was never any real world benefit unless you were doing something actively stupid like trying to game while simultaneously maxing out your PCs bandwidth torrenting, Killer NICs gained a toxic reputation. Supposedly their drivers are better now, but excluding sheeple who just see "gaming nic" and open their wallets assuming it'll help them win whatever they're playing no one who cares about system components wants anything to do with them anymore.
Cheers. I realise there's essentially no benefit. I just wondered if there was (still) anything negative about them, as stated/implied by the comment I replied to.
The reason why MSI continues to offer Killer NICs is because of product stratification. Since this is a "gaming" laptop the company has to use premium components that fit its placement among consumer PCs. Although Intel and even Realtek NICs have a better reputation than Rivet Networks' adapters, those companies don't have hardware that gets marketed as premium gaming stuff so MSI turns to the only company available, Rivet Networks. I really don't get why Intel doesn't rebrand some of their existing models and change their NIC software to feature a darker/edgy theme so they can lay claim to the premium gaming network adapter market. That's basically the only thing Rivet's been doing and even they're finally buying Intel wireless cards. The only thing they develop in-house is their packet prioritization software that no one can actually prove offers any meaningful benefit in non-stupid usage situations (or stupid ones for that matter since there's little nothing online that seems to support their claims).
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HStewart - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link
To me this looks - quite nice - faster GPU and 2 more cores than 8805G in the Dell XPS 15 2in1 - but also looks a lot thicker but there is nothing like 4K screen on the XPS's. Also has only a single Thunderbolt 3 - I would rather it have 2 Thunderbolt 3's To me the need for USB 3.x type A are going away - with a nice hub - who cares.Zanor - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link
I'm still mad the got rid of the numpad. I guess I'll be waiting for the Ampere models in a million years.etamin - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link
Of course they had to ruin the clean "stealth" design with that atrocious dragon on a shield logo. Why not just print MSI on it? Gigabyte Aero 15X did it right.mobutu - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link
was happy until TN. crapDanNeely - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link
yeah, someone made a 1080p 144hz 15.6" TN, virtually all of the current generation of gaming laptops are including it. The only question is if they offer either a cheaper 1080p IPS or more expensive 1440p/4k IPS option at 60hz too.HStewart - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link
I believe a 4K option will increase the cost by about $400 or so and also used more battery. But I believe with such a device it almost a must have. But my reasons for it in XPS 15 2in1 is because of high end graphics and not directly for gaming.Spunjji - Wednesday, April 11, 2018 - link
I thought most of them were using the 1080p 144hz 3/5ms IPS panels? This TN one is a bit of an outlier.husmen - Wednesday, April 11, 2018 - link
I was surprised to see that, because some other media outlets reported it as being an IPS panel,Sorenson - Wednesday, April 11, 2018 - link
I believe they are mistaken, most outlets sight it as an IPS Panel - which would make more sense with its color reproductionSorenson - Thursday, April 12, 2018 - link
this is directly from MSI's website "15.6" FHD (1920x1080), 144Hz, 7ms, IPS-Level"mischlep - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link
Title of the table with the product details says "MSI GT63 Stealth Thin (037/050/051/053/054/068)"timecop1818 - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link
Another garbage with Killer NIC. Hard pass. There's no fucking way killer shit costs less than intel gbe controller.rpg1966 - Wednesday, April 11, 2018 - link
Not having used any Killer NICs... in what way would a user notice any problems with it, compared to an Intel NIC?DanNeely - Wednesday, April 11, 2018 - link
Killer's initial drivers were extremely buggy and had major stability problems. Between that and the fact that there was never any real world benefit unless you were doing something actively stupid like trying to game while simultaneously maxing out your PCs bandwidth torrenting, Killer NICs gained a toxic reputation. Supposedly their drivers are better now, but excluding sheeple who just see "gaming nic" and open their wallets assuming it'll help them win whatever they're playing no one who cares about system components wants anything to do with them anymore.rpg1966 - Wednesday, April 11, 2018 - link
Cheers. I realise there's essentially no benefit. I just wondered if there was (still) anything negative about them, as stated/implied by the comment I replied to.PeachNCream - Thursday, April 12, 2018 - link
The reason why MSI continues to offer Killer NICs is because of product stratification. Since this is a "gaming" laptop the company has to use premium components that fit its placement among consumer PCs. Although Intel and even Realtek NICs have a better reputation than Rivet Networks' adapters, those companies don't have hardware that gets marketed as premium gaming stuff so MSI turns to the only company available, Rivet Networks. I really don't get why Intel doesn't rebrand some of their existing models and change their NIC software to feature a darker/edgy theme so they can lay claim to the premium gaming network adapter market. That's basically the only thing Rivet's been doing and even they're finally buying Intel wireless cards. The only thing they develop in-house is their packet prioritization software that no one can actually prove offers any meaningful benefit in non-stupid usage situations (or stupid ones for that matter since there's little nothing online that seems to support their claims).sharath.naik - Monday, April 16, 2018 - link
need 1440p at 15.6 inch.Antwon - Saturday, May 12, 2018 - link
I'm from trinidad and tobago...how much would the MSI GS65 stealth thin laptop cost me....I'm interested