Analysis taken from our AMD Tech Day 2018 article.

AMD vs. Intel

AMD’s main target with these new processors is to offer something Intel cannot: a combined processor and graphics package. Much like a number of AMD’s previous generation of products, the focus is two-fold: offering more performance at the same price, or being cheaper at equal performance.

For the first part of that argument, about having more performance at the same price, AMD suggests the following competition for the Ryzen 5 2400G:

  • $169 Ryzen 5 2400G (4C/8T, 3.6 GHz, 704 SPs)
  • $182 Core i5-7400 (4C/4T, xxx, 24 EUs)
  • $187 Core i5-8400 (6C/6T, xxx, 24 EUs)

AMD cites that in its internal testing, the 2400G scores 20% higher than the i5-8400 on PCMark 10, and can post 1920x1080 gaming results above 49 FPS in titles such as Battlefield One, Overwatch, Rocket League, and Skyrim, having 2x to 3x higher framerates than Intel’s integrated graphics. This is a claim we can confirm in this review.

For the Ryzen 3 2200G, the competing products are less well defined:

  • $99 Ryzen 3 2200G (4C/4T, 3.5 GHz, 512 SPs)
  • $117 Core i3-8100 (4C/4T, xxx, 23 EUs)
  • $84 Pentium G4620 (2C/4T, xxx, 12 EUs)

Again, through its internal testing, AMD is stating that the 2200G scores 13% higher than the Core i3-8100 in PCMark 10, as well as being within a few frames of the Ryzen 3 2400G in titles such as Rocket League, Skyrim, and Battlefield One. We have a similar scenario tested in this review.

The other side of the argument is price for the same performance. For this comparison, AMD suggests to test the new APUs against Intel processors paired with NVIDIA graphics, specifically the GT 1030. AMD’s data suggests that a Core i5-8400 with a GT1030 scores the same as a Ryzen 5 2400G in the 3DMark TimeSpy benchmark, although costing $290 (vs $169 for the APU) and drawing 30W more power. This is a scenario we also test in this review.

AMD vs. AMD: Raven Ridge and Bristol Ridge

These two new APUs have the internal codename of ‘Raven Ridge’ to signify the family of products. AMD also has ‘Bristol Ridge’ already in the market, using the previous generation of CPU cores and previous generation of integrated graphics. AMD has not actively promoted Bristol Ridge to the public in any serious way, with these parts being hold-overs from the previous platform and designed to be a quick fill within AMD’s product line. To that effect, Bristol Ridge processors were only available for OEMs at the beginning for pre-built systems, and AMD only made them available to the public within the last few months. To our knowledge, AMD did not initiate a review sampling program to the press of these processors either.

With the launch of the two new Zen-plus-Vega Raven Ridge APUs, the Bristol Ridge processors will still continue to be sold. AMD’s reasoning revolves around offering choice in the market, particularly to its OEM customers, and has stated that the two products offer different features and is thus not competing on price. It is clear to say that for anyone buying a new system, the newest products offer the better value: a much higher per-core performance, improved thermal budgeting, newer integrated graphics, and ultimately the core design is the future of AMD. The only items that Bristol Ridge brings to the table now are the legacy aspect, to replace like-for-like, and the offer of a number of 35W-rated products. Bristol Ridge PRO processors are also on the market, offered alongside the new Ryzen PRO with Vega.

Squaring up the competing parts shows that:

Raven Ridge vs. Bristol Ridge
  Ryzen 5
2400G
A12-9800   Ryzen 3
2200G
A10-9700
Core uArch Zen Excavator   Zen Excavator
Cores/Threads 4 / 8 2 / 4   4 / 4 2 / 4
Base CPU Frequency 3.6 GHz 3.8 GHz   3.5 GHz 3.5 GHz
Turbo CPU Frequency 3.9 GHz 4.2 GHz   3.7 GHz 3.8 GHz
TDP 65 W 65 W   65 W 65 W
cTDP 46-65 W 45-65W   46-65 W 45-65W
L2 Cache 512 KB/core 1 MB/core   512 KB/core 1 MB/core
L3 Cache 4 MB -   4 MB -
Graphics Vega 11 GCN 3 Gen   Vega 8 GCN 3 Gen
Compute Units 11 CUs 8 CUs   8 CUs 6 CUs
Streaming Processors 704 SPs 512 SPs   512 SPs 384 SPs
Base GPU Frequency 1250 MHz 1108 MHz   1100 MHz 1029 MHz
DRAM Support DDR4-2933 DDR4-2400   DDR4-2933 DDR4-2400
Price $169 $99   $99 $79

Given the performance uplift we have seen from previous generation A-series processors to the Ryzen desktop parts already, the new APUs should put the nail in the coffin for older AMD parts.

Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G: The Ryzen 2000 Series Test Bed and Setup
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  • Gonemad - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - link

    These chips will cause a major segment of low-end graphics cards to be buried, or have their prices cut down. I can't wait for the benchmarks, and see how many generations will be affected.
  • callmesissi - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - link

    what an amazing apu... this makes all celerons / pentiums and half of i3 completely out of market! this apu is so good, so cheap, kills all the entry level gpus and basically all those intel cpus mentioned .
    way to go amd! now about those drivers and bios....
  • edlee - Thursday, February 15, 2018 - link

    this is amazing by AMD, they need to keep the hits coming, and chipping away market share from intel. Intel has not made any progress on processor graphics in years, this is a super aggressive strategy by AMD that i think will work. Nvidia basically has to cancel out any gpu line below gtx 1030 by next year. Hopefully AMD comes out with a GTX 1050 killer by next year.
  • CSMR - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - link

    I think the relevant Intel comparisons would be processors with Iris Pro or Iris Plus.
  • Hixbot - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - link

    Do these APUs not compete directly with the new Intel-Vega chips? Why did AMD give Intel Vega, when AMD could have had the APU market all to themselves?
  • SaturnusDK - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - link

    Not really. The i8809G as it's called is supposedly a mobile part if you can call a 100W TDP part mobile by any stretch of the imagination. It's based on a 22 (or 24) CU Vega and will be much much more expensive. Expect it to land somewhere in the $400+ range, ie. more expensive than an 8700K
  • franco1961 - Thursday, February 15, 2018 - link

    Hi Ian. Two questions: I have to do a cheap PC for video editing (Adobe Premiere, After Effcets, etc.) and I thought about a Ryzen 3 1200 and a Geforce GT 1030. You think this Ryzen 5 2400G goes for video editing by having a Vega 11? Another question: using DDR4 2400 would I have a strong performance drop or could it be okay? Thank you!
  • rexian96 - Thursday, February 15, 2018 - link

    A question for Ian or anyone who knows - Does 2400G not support HW encoding of H264/265 and just limited decoding? Or that Handbrake doesn't support it yet? Looking at the encoding score it would seem 8400 is miles ahead though the GPU in Ryzen is much stronger.
  • csell - Friday, February 16, 2018 - link

    Hi. Do you know the max videoram?
    Will it be possible to use Crossfire between the shared ram and a graphics card?
    If crossfire will be limited to VEGA graphics card, will I hope AMD will introduce a cheap graphics card with just 8 or 11 Vega compute units and may be HDMI 2.0
  • SaturnusDK - Friday, February 16, 2018 - link

    There will be no crossfire with dGPUs. It's no possible at all.

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