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  • Korguz - Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - link

    i said 22 ?? years old.. same as you.. my estimates ? you mean my exaggerations of how many FPS's quake would get on modern hardware ? just i wasnt sure about the age... maybe.. but that is just my thoughts too... will have to wait to see what street prices turn out to be when these are released.. they could very well be less then what amd has said. well.. thats what those i know said when i asked.. they dont play those games, so they see getting an rtx card as a waste of money.. but consider that they are comparing what they have now.. to getting an rtx card, and it could very well be a waste.. i am sure.. if they did play games that have rt in it.. they might be considering it.. again.. it really comes down to the games that have RT and if one plays them.. for myself, and the games i play.. i would be wasting my money.. but i have always wondered how one game i played would run on newer hardware/better hardware then i have currently, as it always brought my comp to its knees...my current 1060 strix with the 5939k @ 4.2 ghz, vs 1080ti or the 20series/radeon 7/5700xt, with a zen/zen 2 based cpu or a much newer intel cpu, a game called supreme commander... i read a review of it ages ago.. and if you didnt have at least a dual core, dont even bother.. with mine.. on the HUGE maps it has, and 1000 units per side ( up to 8 ) after about 20 mins.. im turning the game speed up to max, and lowering the eye candy down to at least the middle...
  • BenSkywalker - Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - link

    You had the question marks next to 22 years, I see contextually those were incredulous modifiers now, also your estimates, my frame rate goes from 1,460FPS to roughly 60FPS, it's much worse than 400 to 200.

    In no way am I asserting you are making a bad decision for you, not even close- what I'm saying is why would someone choose the 5700 over the 2060? Ignoring ray tracing all together they are close to identical in performance per dollar, so with one you can play around with it if you want, the other you can't.

    If you are saying neither are worth it, completely valid argument and I wouldn't argue it.
  • Korguz - Wednesday, June 19, 2019 - link

    heh.. my exaggeration was a little off for how fast quake would run ;-)

    well, until these cards are out ( 5700 series ) its hard to say if they will be priced that close together, currently the 2060's are priced between 500 and up to 570, even if the entry level 5700 is less then 500 then it could be a better buy.. but wont know for sure for a few more weeks...

    right now.. i guess in a way i am, cause they dont provide a big enough performance increase over what i or those i know.. currently have... my self.. i would need to go to at least a 2070/5700xt.
  • BenSkywalker - Wednesday, June 19, 2019 - link

    Newegg.ca has the Asus phoenix 2060 for $449, a large selection for under $480. At a direct currency exchange the 5700 will be $508 in Canada.
  • Korguz - Wednesday, June 19, 2019 - link

    ahh yes.. the newegg angle.. are you also factoring potenial shipping costs ?? currency exchange.... moot point as that changes daily... and can vary.
    i will wait to see what prices are when released... then compare...
  • BenSkywalker - Wednesday, June 19, 2019 - link

    That's NewEgg Canada, not the U.S., is shipping different for some reason? There is no currency conversion on the newegg.ca site if you're in Canada.

    Obviously waiting for reviews will give us a fuller picture, my issue is what they claimed just doesn't seem to have any compelling reason to buy it over the competition.
  • Korguz - Thursday, June 20, 2019 - link

    BenSkywalker i was referring to newegg.ca in regards to shipping, but seems they have free shipping on that gpu ATM.. either way.. still something to consider if newegg as anything cheaper then going to a local store as with shipping, could negate the lower initial price. as for currency convert.. that was in regards to the 5700.. as there is no current cdn prices... yet...
  • powerwiz - Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - link

    yay
  • Slashchat - Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - link

    and where are the 5800 xt and 5900 dual navi xt?
  • m16 - Sunday, June 23, 2019 - link

    I'd love to get one of these. Nvidia has basically had the market for too long and they now force you to have an account and telemetry enabled to have gaming driver updates and optimizations. They've really not gotten any good karma with me or anyone caring about privacy.

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