Is the keyboard improved?considering the GTX 1080 dropped in price and the 7820hk is marginally more expensive than 7700hq and they still use a TLC drive I'm not so sure what so special about the laptop except for the form factor which is admittedly impressive. Razer is making quite a lot of $$$ on this even with a not so good value proposition
I'm not sure I am or even can be impressed by the RB Pro. I like the fact that it seems like better thought out design than a lot of other high end gaming notebooks that consist of "grabbing a red-on-black case, slapping in the fastest parts, adding a bunch of LEDs, and making sure it probably won't overheat...much." Still, the RB Pro is another computer that makes me say, "Meh, whatever," when I see it. Part of that is the purchase price, but a lot of it is design and the fact that gaming notebooks are non-upgradable and too large.
Yes but after your previous admission I don't really see why you're even looking at gaming laptops, it seems pretty redundant when you'd rather play a Nintendo DS as opposed to actually having a computer large enough to accommodate a graphics card.
They probably invested a hefty sum to purchase a majority stake in THX so they may as well invent a mobile certification category (pending it didn't already exist) so they could add it as a bullet point on marketing materials.
I'd rather have a Pro-Audio computer than a THX certified computer
I can record what I hear in Windows XP Can you do that on a Laptop limited to Spyware Platform 10?
My optical port may not be THX certified but it outputs audio more accurately than a THX certified headphone jack
I can run ANY Windows XP compatible Audio software that IS NOT compatible with Windows 7/8 or 10 and even run Windows 7/8 or 10 on the same machine for any Audio software that is not compatible with XP
"I can record what I hear on Windows 10. You can dual boot on the laptop... " ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What I mean by "record what you hear" is that XP allows you to record audio from youtube videos / movies and other audio files (mp3/wav/etc) AS THEY PLAY!
I was not referring to sound coming into the mic input or recording "what you hear" by using an aftermarket sound card
I've heard many people say they can record "what you hear" using "specific" motherboards with Windows 7/8 or 10 but I have yet to see them actually do it in any youtube videos
In XP, you can do it with ANY compatible motherboard ------------------------------------------------------------------- As for Dualbooting.......
Are you telling me that your EFI Laptop boots to an MBR partition in IDE mode?
excuse me, the sound driver has to support that recording, i have used mobos that do NOT support this in win xp/2k/98, i have seen some call it 'waveout' rather than 'stereomix'
second, are you absolutely oblivious to the fact that screenrecorders have to record audio!? they use the standard windows api that vista added to record... what you hear, not what the driver supports!
"excuse me, the sound driver has to support that recording" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I stand corrected!
I forgot that some motherboard audio hardware was not compatible as it has always worked on every motherboard I have ever tried it on
I never used a screen recorder for Pro-Audio work However... Have you EVER used the standard windows api that Vista added for recording "what you hear" with ANY standard motherboard audio hardware using only "Audio Software" on ANY Intel CPU based System ?
I like everything I've read about this laptop except the price and the fact that the keyboard is off-center.
All 17" laptops seem to suffer from the latter problem - if not a touchpad, they otherwise all have a 10-key - but that's a dealbreaker from a usability standpoint for me.
Any AV Geek will tell you that THX Certification means jack shit these days.
THX let their standards slip, and they've continued to let standards slip.
THX certification on a device means that it has been run through the THX process, which a company has to pay to do, to earn the right to put that logo on their device. A product may very well meet or exceed the requirements for the process, but if a company doesn’t pay for the testing, then it can’t display the logo.
If you do choose to purchase items that have been certified, then you can be assured that all of your THX marked items will work together well, but if you use an item without the logo, it’s still going to work, it just isn’t guaranteed.
The problem is that your average consumer thinks the moment they see the THX logo, something magical is going to happen and it will be like the old Maxell ads of the man being blown back in his chair by the amazing sound of his stereo. Without some major tweaking, which is usually best down by a THX certified installer, you’re never going to get the true quality of the system from just placing the speakers around your room as you see fit.
There have been many to raise this question before us if THX was worth it, and even to go so far as to wonder if it was a scam to make the consumer think they are getting more for their dollar. There are many high quality pieces of equipment out there that don’t carry the THX certification logo.
Of course, Razer paid nothing for their certification because they own THX now. This doesn't mean anything besides the fact that Razer printed their own little sticker to put on their product.
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Eden-K121D - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
Is the keyboard improved?considering the GTX 1080 dropped in price and the 7820hk is marginally more expensive than 7700hq and they still use a TLC drive I'm not so sure what so special about the laptop except for the form factor which is admittedly impressive. Razer is making quite a lot of $$$ on this even with a not so good value propositionImSpartacus - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
It better be for the increase in price.I get that this is a niche product, but I don't expect prices to go up.
BrokenCrayons - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
I'm not sure I am or even can be impressed by the RB Pro. I like the fact that it seems like better thought out design than a lot of other high end gaming notebooks that consist of "grabbing a red-on-black case, slapping in the fastest parts, adding a bunch of LEDs, and making sure it probably won't overheat...much." Still, the RB Pro is another computer that makes me say, "Meh, whatever," when I see it. Part of that is the purchase price, but a lot of it is design and the fact that gaming notebooks are non-upgradable and too large.HomeworldFound - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
Yes but after your previous admission I don't really see why you're even looking at gaming laptops, it seems pretty redundant when you'd rather play a Nintendo DS as opposed to actually having a computer large enough to accommodate a graphics card.BrokenCrayons - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
Hehe, you're so adorable when you're being bitter! ^.^kn00tcn - Wednesday, March 29, 2017 - link
such a jerk, always twisting things around to be innocentwrkingclass_hero - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
How nice of Razer to give themselves a little THX logo to put on the box.BrokenCrayons - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
They probably invested a hefty sum to purchase a majority stake in THX so they may as well invent a mobile certification category (pending it didn't already exist) so they could add it as a bullet point on marketing materials.Bullwinkle J Moose - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
I'd rather have a Pro-Audio computer than a THX certified computerI can record what I hear in Windows XP
Can you do that on a Laptop limited to Spyware Platform 10?
My optical port may not be THX certified but it outputs audio more accurately than a THX certified headphone jack
I can run ANY Windows XP compatible Audio software that IS NOT compatible with Windows 7/8 or 10 and even run Windows 7/8 or 10 on the same machine for any Audio software that is not compatible with XP
Try doing that on your new Razer!
HomeworldFound - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
I can record what I hear on Windows 10. You can dual boot on the laptop...Bullwinkle J Moose - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
"I can record what I hear on Windows 10. You can dual boot on the laptop... "----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What I mean by "record what you hear" is that XP allows you to record audio from youtube videos / movies and other audio files (mp3/wav/etc) AS THEY PLAY!
I was not referring to sound coming into the mic input or recording "what you hear" by using an aftermarket sound card
I've heard many people say they can record "what you hear" using "specific" motherboards with Windows 7/8 or 10 but I have yet to see them actually do it in any youtube videos
In XP, you can do it with ANY compatible motherboard
-------------------------------------------------------------------
As for Dualbooting.......
Are you telling me that your EFI Laptop boots to an MBR partition in IDE mode?
WOW, I need to see that on youtube as well
Leave a link to the video here >
Bullwinkle J Moose - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
"In XP, you can do it with ANY compatible motherboard"
should be >
"you can do that on ANY XP compatible motherboard"
kn00tcn - Wednesday, March 29, 2017 - link
excuse me, the sound driver has to support that recording, i have used mobos that do NOT support this in win xp/2k/98, i have seen some call it 'waveout' rather than 'stereomix'second, are you absolutely oblivious to the fact that screenrecorders have to record audio!? they use the standard windows api that vista added to record... what you hear, not what the driver supports!
Bullwinkle J Moose - Thursday, March 30, 2017 - link
"excuse me, the sound driver has to support that recording"------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I stand corrected!
I forgot that some motherboard audio hardware was not compatible as it has always worked on every motherboard I have ever tried it on
I never used a screen recorder for Pro-Audio work
However...
Have you EVER used the standard windows api that Vista added for recording "what you hear" with ANY standard motherboard audio hardware using only "Audio Software" on ANY Intel CPU based System ?
(AMD is not relevant for this question)
twtech - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
I like everything I've read about this laptop except the price and the fact that the keyboard is off-center.All 17" laptops seem to suffer from the latter problem - if not a touchpad, they otherwise all have a 10-key - but that's a dealbreaker from a usability standpoint for me.
WinterCharm - Tuesday, March 28, 2017 - link
Any AV Geek will tell you that THX Certification means jack shit these days.THX let their standards slip, and they've continued to let standards slip.
THX certification on a device means that it has been run through the THX process, which a company has to pay to do, to earn the right to put that logo on their device. A product may very well meet or exceed the requirements for the process, but if a company doesn’t pay for the testing, then it can’t display the logo.
If you do choose to purchase items that have been certified, then you can be assured that all of your THX marked items will work together well, but if you use an item without the logo, it’s still going to work, it just isn’t guaranteed.
The problem is that your average consumer thinks the moment they see the THX logo, something magical is going to happen and it will be like the old Maxell ads of the man being blown back in his chair by the amazing sound of his stereo. Without some major tweaking, which is usually best down by a THX certified installer, you’re never going to get the true quality of the system from just placing the speakers around your room as you see fit.
There have been many to raise this question before us if THX was worth it, and even to go so far as to wonder if it was a scam to make the consumer think they are getting more for their dollar. There are many high quality pieces of equipment out there that don’t carry the THX certification logo.
Inteli - Thursday, March 30, 2017 - link
Of course, Razer paid nothing for their certification because they own THX now. This doesn't mean anything besides the fact that Razer printed their own little sticker to put on their product.zodiacfml - Wednesday, March 29, 2017 - link
Meh but plenty people and companies can splurge to such device.