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  • Brainonska511 - Thursday, August 12, 2010 - link

    Thanks. It's a great feature. I used the CPU bench feature when I was trying to decide between a Phenom II X2/X3 and an Athlon II X4 (ended up with the Athlon II X4).
  • Torgog - Thursday, August 12, 2010 - link

    I was about to give up on Anandtech as I've so few reviews of mobos and graphics cards as of late. Then, WHAM!!! - you produce one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time. Way to go! I think I'll hang on for the CPU and SSD benches.
  • Stokestack - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    "I realized that I would have much more repeatable and reliable numbers if I used SSDs"

    First off, cool feature.

    But... based on SSD tests on this very site, is that statement true? Given the way that SSD performance can degrade over time and require defrag-like procedures anyway, aren't hard drives potentially more reliable?
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Saturday, August 14, 2010 - link

    A good SSD produces *far* more repeatable numbers than a hard drive. Remember that even in its worst case, a good SSD is still significantly faster than a HDD.

    All of our CPU bench testbeds use Intel X25-M G1s with enough free space on the drive to negate all of these issues. When we switch over to the next generation of SSDs for our tests (SandForce or X25-M G3 based) the concern won't even remotely register :)

    Take care,
    Anand
  • anactoraaron - Thursday, August 12, 2010 - link

    It's like getting a great expansion pack to a great game.

    I assume the next step in bench's evolution is mobile cpu's/gpu's.
  • Donkey2008 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Unless of course that game is MW2. Then again, you did say "great" game so it wouldn't count anyway.

    Thanks Anand. Graphics cards have the ability to make-or-break a gaming system like no other component, so this GPU bench is right on the mark. As much as tech folk discredit Futuremark, I still think 3DMark 11 will be a valuable validation and troubleshooting tool and I hope it is included in your tests after it is released. It may not be 100% perfect in predicting absolute FPS in all games, but 3DMark has always been a great test to ensure that your new system is "in the neighborhood" of other systems with similar specs.

    Anyway, thanks and keep up the great work.
  • KZ0 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Yes, mobile CPUs and GPUs would be absolutely awesome, and being able to compare mobile products with desktop products. Especially very useful on deciding on whether to by a laptop or a desktop for a certain set of tasks.

    Also, wonderful expansion, keep it up.
  • seapeople - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    +1 on the mobile benchmarks.

    The benchmarks here are great... unless you're interested in a new laptop, in which case you're out of luck.
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Saturday, August 14, 2010 - link

    We've been talking about ways to do mobile CPU and GPU benchmarking for a while now. We've got some things in the works :)

    Take care,
    Anand
  • FunBunny2 - Thursday, August 12, 2010 - link

    While admirable, you really need to test true Enterprise SSD. STEC ZeusIOPS would be a good place to start. Retail parts should never be used in any production server. Never.
  • Stuka87 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Er, I think you mean consumer parts, and not retail? As I would never put a non-retail part in my server. I want something that is proven and easily replaceable.
  • FunBunny2 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    consumer === retail most places
  • TheFlyingSquirrel - Thursday, August 12, 2010 - link

    maybe next should be cpu heatsinks
  • chaudx - Thursday, August 12, 2010 - link

    Are the driver versions used to get those scores noted anywhere?
  • GeorgeH - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    This is a huge and very welcome addition to AnandTech's value. I know what a crapton of work it is to maintain and keep databases like this relevant, so you have my sincere thanks and sympathy for both the work that has been done and the work that will be done in the future.

    That said, I have a tiny (and hopefully pretty easy) suggestion that could make GPU Bench even better. It might be cool if Nvidia cards always had two shades of green and ATI cards always had two shades of red for the 2-card comparison instead of the current blue and black bars - it'd make a quick ATI v. NVIDIA comparison much easier to make.
  • Donkey2008 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    I second the motion for color-coding the card names by brand (namely Nivida green, ATI red and Intel blue...ok, just kidding about including Intel). I keep an excel spreadsheet of FPS scores (3DMark, COD, BC2, Crysis, WiC, etc) for my game mates and we do that exact thing. It makes comparative analysis easier.
  • haplo602 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    the only thing I am missing are workstation/server CPUs.

    Lately I am hunting ebay for socket F platforms however I cannot find reasonable benchmarks for the CPUs ... any chance you could bench this class ? Opteron/Xeon would be enough.
  • JGabriel - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link


    I wasn't one of the people who asked, but thanks anyway. This is a feature I wished for many times.

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  • Money Loo - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Just one thing, if I have a intel core 2 duo e6600, which proc should I use as my comparison that would be close enough for said comparison?
  • Money Loo - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    And this might seem moot but I'm drunk so bare with me, how does this work for overclocking? My e6600 is overclocked from 2.4Ghz to 3.4Ghz...should I google and find out which proc is closer to 3GHz? How would I go about using this properly (noob question probably please don't hurt me).
  • Loki726 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Hi Anand,

    I noticed that the CPU bench lists the system configuration used for each test (including driver versions/CPU/GPU/etc) but this seems to be missing from the GPU bench. I am trying to determine the affect that CPUs have on game performance and it is a little hard without a baseline. Would it be possible to add something similar to GPU bench?

    Great addition though, keep the results coming!
  • gaidin123 - Saturday, August 14, 2010 - link

    I second this. The GPU bench is massively appreciated! Knowing what the general system components were when benching the various cards will let us better determine where we should spend money (CPU and/or GPU).

    Right now if we are trying to decide on parts for a new system you can compare CPUs in CPU bench and GPUs in the new section but knowing the baseline specs (ie for system load power consumption in GPU bench) will help clear things up when we try to compare the figures to our own existing system's figures.

    Thanks,
    Gaidin
  • Adam42 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    For the CPU bench it would be handy if it could filter / sort by CPU socket type. That way you can more easily look at what upgrade options you have which don't have the extra expense of replacing your motherboard, and possibly memory too.
  • MadAd - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Is it possible? Choose an SSD, GPU and CPU and get a combined score, and then if we want, compare that to a 2nd system with a different SSD GPU and CPU? Or a little different. eg same SSD different GPU/CPU?
  • Riccardo - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Great addition to the Bench - thanks!
  • ABR - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Since this DB is just starting w/pretty recent cards anyway, how 'bout adding some GPU compute benchmarks to the mix? I know it's hard to find much good, let alone applying to both Nvidia and ATI, but starting somewhere would be good!
  • scottdolson - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    I second this. It would be very nice to see some numbers for this area of functionality.
  • mino - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    PLEASE, do us ALL a huge favor - test all available IGP's and event the older ones (they are far less IGP's the GPU's anyway)

    That way anyone asking a "stupid" question why IGP is not enough could be pointed to your artice.

    Also, it would be great to include a 2D benchmark - from my experience even today some low-end GPU's, not to mention IGP's a have a problem to handle 2D on bigger screens ...
  • crimson117 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Thanks! Was waiting for this... my friend wants a new PC to play Starcraft 2; this will help!
  • fausto412 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    this new Bench apps is awesome.
  • james.jwb - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    May i make a CPU suggestion? For each different configuration of a CPU (some come with 2mb cache, some 4mb, and so on), do overclocked results to show how, say, and overclocked E2200 at 3.2GHz would compare to what's available now.

    It just gives an extra data point to help out, I think.
  • james.jwb - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    What i mean is, i actually do have an E2200 at 3.3GHz, and it would just be interesting to be able to see an overclocked result here, otherwise the best I can see is a 2.2GHz clocked result, or start to look at higher cache versions like the E5200.

    The results should perhaps be listed differently so not to get in the way, under a different category or requiring an additional click to show the overclocked results, etc.
  • LNCPapa - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    I absolutely love this feature. Thanks for all the time put into this and solid benchmarking practices.
  • Stuka87 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    This is such an awesome feature to have. Many thanks for all the work that went into it.

    However, I am not sure if this is a data entry typo, or the actual score. But the Radoen HD 5970 only gets 1.8 FPS during the Crysis Warhead test at 2560x1600.

    Is this correct?
  • Ryan Smith - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    That's the minimum framerate, and that's correct. The Radeon cards get hit hard at the start of that benchmark with CF and 2560x1600, so the 5970 really does bottom out at very low framerates thanks to CF with only 1GB of VRAM per GPU.
  • Sanctusx2 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Fantastic tool! I've been wanting something like this for awhile. I'm definitely going to use this to shop for my new rig once prices on a few components drop a little bit further.

    Just one suggestion: Could you perhaps add typical 5400, 7200, and 10k RPM hard drive to the SSD roundup? While it's very useful to see all the SSDs compared, it would be great to see more data pertinent to those of us who have yet to make the plunge.
  • at80eighty - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Way to go Anand - keep me coming back year after year till ive lost count. Fantastic work and thanks for the addition.
  • Roomba - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    That is a neat and concise tool. Very nice work.
  • Shelbino - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Bench is a very nice addition to your site. Thanks!
  • jigglylizard - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    'If you want to find out whether the Core i5 750 will be a significant upgrade from your Core 2 Quad Q6600 you can head over to Bench and find out.'

    I was looking for a benchmark on this exact comparison like 2 hours ago and found none for gaming.

    Great idea! I will make good use of this....
  • ghoti - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    'nuff said.
  • Regs - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    I asked!
  • Leeman - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    I can't find on your site what the base system is for the GPU benches. Curious what CPU and memory was used.
  • Burticus - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    I like it! The side by side comparisons are great. I am often wondering how much better X is than Y and this does it!

    Sadly some of my hardware is so old it predates some of your cpu and gpu choices, but I understand the need to stay with mostly modern stuff.

    Good work! Big thumbs up.
  • RMSe17 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    I like the Bench, great job on it, and good to see some old cards available for comparison with future upgrades.

    A small request from me is to have more Crossfire tests, as currently the only current gen card with Crossfire is the 5870, which is a rather expensive setup. I am curious to see the results for Xfire of 5770, 5830, 5850.

    Thanks a lot! :)
    RMSe17
  • demonbug - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    I was actually hoping for more CF/SLI on older setups, so I can see if it makes more sense to add a second card (in my case a Radeon 4850) or wait a while and get a new card. I can get a new, matching 4850 for ~$100; I'd like to see how much I'd have to spend to beat that with a new card/cards.

    Though I guess I could take a look at the 4870 and estimate...
  • LoneNinja - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    I hope there are plans to include more benchmarks, and a much larger variety of cards to these tests. I personally don't own anything in that list, and I'm not in the market to purchase anything included in these tests. I don't play the games you benched either.

    I'd personally like to see some of the more low end-mainstream cards shown, and at a resolution below 1680x1050. I know that isn't enthusiast, but more people buy those than they do 5870's.
  • DJDave404 - Friday, August 13, 2010 - link

    Hi Anand

    In reviewing your results from the SSD section, I see the 256GB Crucial RealSSD C300 2.5-inch SATA 6GB/s was tested on a Intel motherboard with no Sata III connection.
    And that cut 100mb off the real speed of this drive. In the 4kb category it will not make much difference, as the drive has it's weak point there and cannot saturate the sata II port your were using.
    As more and more of the SSD Sata III drives come to market, this may be something you will need to address in the future of the Bench Statistics.
    My personal 256GB Crucial C300 goes right on by 300Mb/Second reads all the time on a Sata III controller. Write Benches show 200+ Mb writes as well

    Hope this Helps
  • ET - Saturday, August 14, 2010 - link

    That's a really nice feature. Hopefully it will grow to encompass a lot more cards. I'd love to see a lot more cards here, spanning all price ranges and ages. It could be an invaluable resource for people upgrading their cards.
  • bill4 - Saturday, August 14, 2010 - link

    thanks for the work.

    I remember at times Tom's had certain databases, but I dont think they were kept very up to date. Besides Tom's is a foreign site. This is much better.

    I strongly concur with making "higher is better" graphs for all as well. It's a bit annoying to look at the comparisons and have to mentally adjust from benchmark to benchmark
  • diesavagenation - Saturday, August 14, 2010 - link

    Love it! Great job guys
  • behrtrap - Saturday, August 14, 2010 - link

    Dear Mr. Lal-Shampi:

    I am a crazed, enthusiastic newbie. My education is in business, so my head is nearly ringing as i try to sort out theoretical transfer rates, TDP, phase count on mobos etc.
    This is a "disruptive technology" of a most positive kind. it is a game changer. The bench helps me decide where to focus my money. Combined with your insights on lack of multi-thread apps and who really needs six cores--YOU RULE!!!
  • Burticus - Saturday, August 14, 2010 - link

    Any chance we could see some comparison bench's for other slightly older video cards? 9600/9800GT, 8800GTS, GTS 250 etc. Yes I know those are all similar, but I think it would be a good tool for upgrade comparison purposes.
  • Ryan Smith - Saturday, August 14, 2010 - link

    Some of that we'll be doing in the future when we put together our now mid-range/low-end benchmark suites. Some of those other cards (the 8800GTS/GTS250) I simply don't have.
  • Roland00 - Saturday, August 14, 2010 - link

    Donate your own video card to Anandtech. Let them do some benchmarks. And then he can give it away free as a giveaway. Several people would still love many nvidia cards for they are good folders.
  • AtwaterFS - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - link

    I second this, LOT of ppl have 8800/9800 cards and GPU bench really is useful for seeing if u should bother upgrading... Only one u have is 8800GT, but I know it;s a constant WIP so keep up the good work!
  • softdrinkviking - Sunday, August 15, 2010 - link

    i wonder if we might some day get the opportunity to see the bench results with combinations of different hardware?

    for example GTX 480 + i7 940 OR Radeon 5870 + i3 530

    it would be interesting to see how much effect different combinations have on performance.

    i know that would take like, forever to benchmark, but it would be interesting.
  • winjohn - Sunday, August 15, 2010 - link

    Cool tool! I see you have the consumer GPUs covered, but what about workstation class cards? Would be good to see a comparision of the current Quadro and FirePro cards.
  • Bend-her - Sunday, August 15, 2010 - link

    This is a really cool feature, although i'd love to see some more GPUs added to the DB.
  • PitneFor - Sunday, August 15, 2010 - link

    this is so cool, i love it
  • vailr - Sunday, August 15, 2010 - link

    The Intel E6300 CPU was made in 2 different forms:
    Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 (Conroe - 65 nm)
    &
    Intel Pentium E6300 Wolfdale 2.8GHz (45 nm).

    May want to further clarify which version? Or maybe: include both in your chart?
    Also: suggestion for 2 more CPU's be added: Intel E6400 (Conroe) & Intel Core i7 930.
  • BLHealthy4life - Sunday, August 15, 2010 - link

    in the "GPU Product Benchmarks", the "add item" feature doe snot work. however it does work with "Browse GPU Benchmarks".
  • ProDigit - Monday, August 16, 2010 - link

    Although there have been plenty of benchmarks out there already, perhaps the most notorious, most sold processor line ever has been left out!
    The Netbook Atom processors, AKA:
    N260, N270, N280, N450, N455, N470, and the N475 (I hope I have all here).
  • kjskeete - Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - link

    Occasional reader, first time poster. I just HAD to register to let you know what a great job you've done with GPU Bench. It's exactly what I needed...three months ago :) Keep up the good work!
  • The Big Nasty - Thursday, August 19, 2010 - link

    This is the coolest feature on any website IMO. I not only use it at least once a day (Im a benchmark junkie) but I link to it in other forums when discussing "GTX this" vs "Radeon that".
  • feraltoad - Friday, August 20, 2010 - link

    This is really useful! It really helps out when someone asks me what they should buy!
  • softdrinkviking - Friday, August 20, 2010 - link

    this thread is a bit old now, so i don't know if it is still getting read, but...

    if the Anandtech staff happens to read this comment, it would be nice to see the 5850 in crossfire added to the benchmark suite. i think that many current 5850 owners will be considering this as an upgrade soon, especially if the prices come down. (newegg has one for $255 already)
    also, with the power economy vs. performance of the 5850, it seems like a really good option.
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  • pauly4it - Monday, August 23, 2010 - link

    The GPU Bench is great, but it only uses games as benchmarks. I'd like to see some rendering programs thrown in (Premiere, After Effects, 3DS Max, etc), as this is the primary reason I need a GPU. Once that's added, Anandtech will pretty much have everything I need.

    Keep up the great work!
  • darkewaffle - Friday, August 27, 2010 - link

    One feature I'd like to see added to the GPU bench is a resolution filter, or some simple sorting options. Sometimes you want to see all the results for a specific game or a specific resolution, and while the ability to drag the bars to organize them is nice, its also a little tedious given how easy it is for all the labels to run together and how long they can get.

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