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  • Pfffman - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link

    Will this be available as a audio download later? It's much harder to be tied to Youtube to listen to the podcasts.
  • wrkingclass_hero - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link

    I would also appreciate an audio download
  • ImSpartacus - Thursday, December 26, 2013 - link

    I, too, would appreciate audio versions on the podcast RSS feed.
  • jjj - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link

    Guess at this point you got to ask about Calxeda even if he's not the right guy to answer.
  • barleyguy - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link

    I'd love to hear a discussion of designing chips for thermally constrained environments such as phones. I know that's pretty general, but might be fascinating considering his knowledge.
  • Shidell - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link

    My question derives from ARM-based devices and fixed-firmware Operating Systems.

    Current ARM devices feature fixed-firmware OS builds; there is no concept of a "general" image that can be installed using generic drivers, and later install better ones. It seems this problem stems from two key points with respect to ARM platforms:

    1. A lack of firmware standard (UEFI, for example) being utilized on ARM devices.
    2 A lack of of specifications for interconnectivity (for example, PCI spec.

    Do you think the industry is moving towards UEFI, a device tree, and "generic" OS images? Do you expect end users will soon be able to update their ARM devices to the latest versions of Android, Windows, or other OSes without requiring third-party firmware engineers like CyanogenMod, for example?
  • elabdump - Friday, December 27, 2013 - link

    Windows plays a minor role in the ARM world, there is no need for UEFI.
    Devicetrees and Uboot for linux are already there.
  • Arnulf - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link

    Google Hangouts ? Isn't that the useless shyte that I had to replace right away with another application in order to be able to send SMS from my Nexus 5 ?
  • quidpro - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link

    you know a lot about phones, that's for sure.
  • Peter_H - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link

    if you whant a audio file from youtube video's use this site :)
    http://www.listentoyoutube.com/index.php
  • Pfffman - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link

    Thanks for the link but I stillI won't be using it.

    I understand that people can just rip the audio out, but it takes away views which is money and proof that people want to watch/listen to these which will make it harder to get sponsors.

    Unless Anand personally comments/says is okay to get a download through other means, I'll be sticking to YouTube :(
  • Dman23 - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link

    Yes, it would be nice if you guys provided a Podcast feed to this video / audio. I've stated this before and maybe because you guys were eager to post this video ASAP but it would be VERY much appreciated if you could take the time (maybe even invest in a Mac Pro or near-equivalent PC) to output and invest (if you haven't already done so) in some good podcast producing software (i.e. Final Cut + Compressor or adobe Audition) so you can spit out a quality video / audio Podcasts to the various podcast feeds for shows just like this.

    With the power now-a-days, in these desktop computers... even doing HD quality video, shouldn't take long at all even for a long-format talk / interview.
  • Dman23 - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link

    Oh btw.... looking forward to another great AnandTech Mobile Show on my podcast client! :D
  • Dman23 - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link

    Also, I wanted to mention that I really found this interview VERY interesting... especially considering it was from someone so high-up in the management chain at ARM (and an ARM Fellow at that). And I also loved the question you asked Anand about if Peter was to design his ideal High-End Phone mobile SOC what would it be? It was extremely interesting to see him explain the rationale behind what he would choose based on his ideal mix of performance / battery / thermal capabilities.

    Also, I got to add... him dropping out at the end was CLASSIC. lol Which btw, is a perfect reason to take the minimal amount of time to produce a video podcast so those type of things don't end up happening. But overall, great interview.
  • fteoath64 - Tuesday, December 31, 2013 - link

    Anand seems hesitant to ask questions that might touch on "trade secrets" aspects but should NOT be so as the respondent would be sharp enough to catch it and respond in a way that will not violate the IP aspects much. The issue here for the listeners is to understand the detailed aspects of design rationale by the designer and Peter gave those info well. Effectively, the A53 is based off most of the A7 so it is really an evolution design with optimizations to parts of the architecture.It is the refinements over time that would be very interesting as partners implement various refinements to suit their purposes.eg L3 cache called WriteBack buffer. See why Apple A7 seemed to have 4MB of this L3 ?.
  • Krysto - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link

    You forgot to ask if there will be an A55 and what was the point of A12.
  • wrkingclass_hero - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link

    Great questions, great video, this is why I love anandtech!
  • dabotsonline - Saturday, December 21, 2013 - link

    What camera or webcam were you using for this Hangout, Anand? The picture is very clear at your end.
  • B3an - Friday, December 27, 2013 - link

    I'd also like to know this.

    BTW Anand it's great that you got an interview with someone like this, it's pretty rare.
  • mjv.theory - Saturday, December 21, 2013 - link

    This is just the best and most insightful videos on the subject that I have seen. Seriously, very well done and a big thank you to Anand and Peter.

    On a personal note, I had been wondering about the LITTLE.big core counts. What a joy to have Peter clear up that point and also agree with what I had been thinking - excellent bit of telepathy on his part.
  • twotwotwo - Monday, December 23, 2013 - link

    Was interesting to hear his ideal SoC would include 4 small + 2 big cores (and, good question, and glad he actually answered it). I hadn't known about the fanciness in the latest version of big.LITTLE. I can imagine cool things happening on the software side if a lot of phones shipped with that: one main thread handing little tasks to a pool of worker threads on the four little cores, for instance, or an OS scheduler that knows that certain background tasks belong on small cores even if the phone's in active use.
  • fteoath64 - Tuesday, December 31, 2013 - link

    I would refine more into doing 1 Big and 3 small cores but the small cores clocked slightly differently like this: Big(1.8Ghz), Small Core0 (1.5Ghz), Core1 (1.3Ghz), Core 2 (1Ghz). The affinity of Core0 being OS mostly. This would perform close to 96% of 2Big.4Small but huge saving in die space and power reduction. I have a single core 1.5 S1 single core Scorpion SoC and running 1.2Ghz and 1.5Ghz is a small diff in performance but huge savings in power!.
  • B3an - Friday, December 27, 2013 - link

    Interesting stuff, thanks.

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