Update: After some emailing back and forth, we can confirm that the slide that Intel's partner ASML presented at the IEDM conference is actually an altered version of what Intel presented for the September 2019 source. ASML added animations to the slide such that the bottom row of dates correspond to specific nodes, however at the time we didn't spot these animations (neither did it seem did the rest of the press). It should be noted that the correlation that ASML made to exact node names isn't so much a stretch of the imagination to piece together, however it has been requested that we also add the original Intel slide to provide context to what Intel is saying compared to what was presented by ASML. Some of the wording in the article has changed to reflect this. Our analysis is still relevant.

One of the interesting disclosures here at the IEEE International Electron Devices Meeting (IEDM) has been around new and upcoming process node technologies. Almost every session so far this week has covered 7nm, 5nm, and 3nm processes (as the industry calls them).  What we didn’t expect to see disclosed was an extended roadmap of Intel’s upcoming manufacturing processes. It should be noted that the slide presented at the conference by Intel's partner, ASML, was modified slightly from its original source.

They say a slide is worth 1000 words. Here’s 1000 words on Intel's future.

 


Intel's slide, as presented in September

This is Intel's original slide, not detailing which nodes in which years. However, it should be easy enough to figure out that each one of the elements in the bottom row is the next process node along, otherwise the +/++ wouldn't make sense.

ASML applied these assumptions to the slide it presented at the IEDM keynote, but the company did not disclose that they had modified the slide.


Intel's slide with ASML's animations overlayed, as shown in the slide deck distributed by ASML

So let’s go through some key areas.

1.4nm in 2029

Intel expects to be on 2 year cadence with its manufacturing process node technology, starting with 10nm in 2019 and moving to 7nm EUV in 2021, then a fundamental new node in each of 2023, 2025, 2027, 2029. This final node is what ASML has dubbed '1.4nm'. This is the first mention on 1.4nm in the context of Intel on any Intel-related slide. For context, if that 1.4nm is indicative of any actual feature, would be the equivalent of 12 silicon atoms across.

It is perhaps worth noting that some of the talks at this year’s IEDM features dimensions on the order of 0.3nm with what are called ‘2D self-assembly’ materials, so something this low isn’t unheard of, but it is unheard of in silicon. Obviously there are many issues going that small that Intel (and its partners) will have to overcome.

+, ++, and Back Porting

In between each process node, as Intel has stated before, there will be iterative + and ++ versions of each in order to extract performance from each process node. The only exception to this is 10nm, which is already on 10+, so we will see 10++ and 10+++ in 2020 and 2021 respectively. Intel believes they can do this on a yearly cadence, but also have overlapping teams to ensure that one full process node can overlap with another.

The interesting element to these slides is the mention of back porting. This is the ability for a chip to be designed with one process node in mind, but perhaps due to delays, can be remade on an older ‘++’ version of a process node in the same timeframe. Despite Intel stating that they are disaggregating chip design from process node technology, at some point there has to be a commitment to a process node in order to start the layouts in silicon. At that point the process node procedure is kind of locked, especially when it goes to mask creation.

In the slide, it shows that Intel is going to allow a workflow such that any first gen 7nm design could be back ported to 10+++, any first gen 5nm design could be back ported to 7++, and so on. One can argue that this roadmap might not be so strict with the dates – we have seen Intel’s 10nm take a long time to bake, so expecting the company to move with a yearly cadence on + updates alongside a two-year cadence with main process technology nodes would appear to be a very optimistic and aggressive cadence strategy.

Note that this isn’t the first mention of back porting hardware designs when it comes to Intel. With the current delays to Intel’s 10nm process technology, it has been widely rumoured that some of Intel’s future CPU microarchitecture designs, originally designed with 10nm (or 10+, 10++) in mind might actually find a home on a 14nm process due to the success of that process node.

Development and Research

Normally with process node developments, there will be different teams working on each process node. This slide states that Intel is currently in development of its 10+++ optimizations as well as the 7nm family. The idea is that the ‘+’ updates are capturing the low hanging fruit from a design standpoint every generation, and the number represents a full node benefit. Interestingly we see Intel’s 7nm being based on 10++, whereas in the future Intel sees 5nm come from the base 7nm design, and 3nm coming from 5nm. There is no doubt that some of the optimizations that enter each +/++ update will filter into future designs as and when they are needed.

In this slide, we have Intel’s 2023 node currently in the definition stage. At this IEDM conference there’s a lot of talk about 5nm in this timeframe, so some of those improvements (such as manufacturing, materials, consistency, etc.) will ultimately end up in Intel’s process depending on which design houses they partner with (historically Applied Materials). It is worth noting that 5nm is listed as a 2023 node, which is around the time that ASML will start selling its ‘High NA’ EUV machines to help with better path definition during the manufacturing process. I’m not sure if High NA will intercept at 5nm or 3nm, assuming this Intel roadmap has its dates correct and Intel is able to stick to it, but it is something to consider

Beyond 2023, Intel is currently in the ‘path-finding’ and 'research' mode. As always when looking this far out, Intel is considering new materials, new transistor designs, and such. At this IEDM conference we’re seeing a lot of talk of gate-all-around transistors, either as nano-sheets or nano-wires, so no doubt we’re going to see some of that as FinFET runs out of steam. TSMC is still using FinFETs for its 5nm process (Intel’s 7nm equivalent), so I wouldn’t be surprised if we see something like nano-sheets then nano-wires (or even hybrid designs) come into Intel’s manufacturing stack.

It’s worth also pointing out, based on the title of this slide, that Intel still believes in Moore’s Law. Just don’t ask how much it’ll cost.

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  • Spunjji - Wednesday, December 11, 2019 - link

    I think it's perfectly fair to call these projections dishonest. Word-lawyering over the word "promise" aside, they're very much signalling to the public (and shareholders) that they intend to deliver on a 2 year cadence. Given their behaviour throughout the 10nm debacle (it's fine... still fine... definitely fine... okay not fine yet but will be tomorrow... probably... 14nm is great by the way... etc.) we know we can't trust their roadmaps anymore, so why push such a tight cadence when we're all aware how unlikely it is?

    It doesn't smell right.
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  • Adonisds - Wednesday, December 11, 2019 - link

    That's right, thanks Spunjji. The word promise wasnt a good choice but I always find it very weird when people start saying others are wrong because the definitions of the words they used are not perfect, instead of focusing on the essence of the argument, and that is that the roadmap is dishonest, if it isn't a promise Reply
  • name99 - Wednesday, December 11, 2019 - link

    Here’s what you are REALLY upset about:
    We are seeing the arrival of the Ceausescu moment, when the dictator rants his usual nonsense and everyone, instead of being vowed, bursts out laughing.
    You don’t want what is known by everyone to become common knowledge...
    Reply
  • dullard - Thursday, December 12, 2019 - link

    See the update to the article above. It wasn't even Intel stating 5 nm, 3 nm, 2 nm, and 1.4 nm. It was someone's alteration to Intel's slide. So, of course we should jump to the conclusion that it was Intel being dishonest? Reply
  • Adonisds - Friday, December 13, 2019 - link

    When we commented we didn't know about that update. But seeing the original roadmap it's not really different. There's still a new node each 2 years. And the node names that they inserted are plausible, it's probably what they are gonna end up being called, or something similar. It's just names, it doesn't matter Reply
  • rahvin - Wednesday, December 11, 2019 - link

    This isn't a stretch goal, it's absolutely unrealistic. Intel know EUV is super expensive, and each generation is getting harder and more complicated to manufacture. Keep in mind even if the smallest traces are 7nm, the transistors are still locked at somewhere around 16-22nm (depends on the tech each fab uses). So as you go smaller you need new processes to raise a transistor with a wider gap out of the 7nm trace.

    The costs of these shrinks is increasing dramatically. 16nm cost about $4billion, 14nm cost about $8billion, 10nm(7nm) cost upwards of $14Billion and 5nm is projecting costs of close to $20Billion just to build the fab. These costs are unsustainable with 2 year runs (you simply cannot recoup the fab build costs in that timeframe without increasing prices at the same rate), they'll need to push each node out to 6+ years going forward to be able to recoup the capital (build) costs while maintaining reasonable prices. Look at the Xeon-W workstation chips, it's two xeon chips stapled together and to cover their costs and margins the chip alone costs $7,000.
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  • extide - Wednesday, December 11, 2019 - link

    There are no dual die Xeon W products, FYI. You are thinking of Cascade Lake AP ... and they cost a LOT more than $7k .. closer to $50k. Reply
  • nico_mach - Thursday, December 12, 2019 - link

    This part is ok actually. The fab doesn't fall apart after 2 years, and Intel has made moves into contract manufacturing. Without a modem business, we can wonder what they'll produce, but if they get that far, it should be easy enough to drum up business.

    And anyway, it's not going to be every two years.
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  • versesuvius - Wednesday, December 11, 2019 - link

    Just good? It is awsome. As of this moment I am the greatest man alive back ported to me!!! Reply
  • Opencg - Wednesday, December 11, 2019 - link

    I just look up to myself and then I raise myself up and I just get cooler all the time. Reply

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